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    Humbucker Recommendations for my 2004 Gibson Les Paul Historic 58 RI Cloud 9

    Thinking about changing the pickups on my 2004 Gibson 58RI Cloud 9. It is actually the 13th one made -- so this one is a keeper. The wood resonates and overall the guitar sounds great -- the pickups however -- I think are the standard gibson burst buckers (which sound pretty good) but have more of rock feel to them. I am looking for pickups that are a little brighter and with more clarity. These pickups are a little dark and can get a little muddy 9especially when you roll back the volume).

    I might add coil taps -- as well.


    Pickups need to work well for a variety of styles of music

    R&B/Smooth Jazz, soul, oldies, funk, country, classic rock.

    Any recommendations?


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    Re: Humbucker Recommendations for my 2004 Gibson Les Paul Historic 58 RI Cloud 9

    I really like the Lollar Low Wind Imperials. I tend to like lower gain pickups, and while I really like Gibson pickups I have had some of them that are really hot.

    I tend to go for a pretty traditional sound and (IMHE) the older classic pickups were nowhere as hot as a lot of the newer ones.

    Low Wind Imperial Humbucker Pickup

    I have one of those Cloud 9 guitars as well. They're killer. As crazy as it sounds, I think they're the most authentic SOUNDING Historic Gibson out there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by amp360 View Post
    I have one of those Cloud 9 guitars as well. They're killer. As crazy as it sounds, I think they're the most authentic SOUNDING Historic Gibson out there.
    I could not agree with you more!!!!
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    Re: Humbucker Recommendations for my 2004 Gibson Les Paul Historic 58 RI Cloud 9

    These pickups are a little dark and can get a little muddy 9especially when you roll back the volume).
    Try a "treble bleed". Installed on the volume pots, they pass the highs when the volume is down.

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    Re: Humbucker Recommendations for my 2004 Gibson Les Paul Historic 58 RI Cloud 9

    Quote Originally Posted by Fret Shop View Post
    Try a "treble bleed". Installed on the volume pots, they pass the highs when the volume is down.
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    Well whatever I decide .. you are going to do the work

    I did take out my Gibson CS 336 last weekend for gig-- love the tone of that guitar ... but the tuning is still a little unstable -- not as bad as it use to be. Going to need you to look at the nut again.

    Might end up switching out to a graphite nut.

    I have zero issues with my Tyler Burning Water and TylerBastar -- those suckers are the most stable of all the guitars I have owned.

    This weekend (Sat night) at the St. Moritz -- I will go back to the James Tyler TylerBastar.

    Spent all day tweaking patches on my Fractal Axe-FX XL+ for that guitar after a major firmware upgrade (I did the 336 first that is why I took it out last week).
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    Re: Humbucker Recommendations for my 2004 Gibson Les Paul Historic 58 RI Cloud 9

    Quote Originally Posted by LVC View Post
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    Well whatever I decide .. you are going to do the work

    I did take out my Gibson CS 336 last weekend for gig-- love the tone of that guitar ... but the tuning is still a little unstable -- not as bad as it use to be. Going to need you to look at the nut again.

    Might end up switching out to a graphite nut.

    I have zero issues with my Tyler Burning Water and TylerBastar -- those suckers are the most stable of all the guitars I have owned.

    This weekend (Sat night) at the St. Moritz -- I will go back to the James Tyler TylerBastar.

    Spent all day tweaking patches on my Fractal Axe-FX XL+ for that guitar after a major firmware upgrade (I did the 336 first that is why I took it out last week).
    Have to look at the bridge also. Not a fan of graphite, I've replaced more graphite nuts with bone than with graphite.

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    Re: Humbucker Recommendations for my 2004 Gibson Les Paul Historic 58 RI Cloud 9

    Quote Originally Posted by Fret Shop View Post
    Have to look at the bridge also. Not a fan of graphite, I've replaced more graphite nuts with bone than with graphite.
    Well I am open to bone.

    I have to say the guitar did stay more in tune than it usual (thanks to the small tweak you did to it a while back) -- but you've seen us play -- we jump from one song to the next -no time between songs to retune. I did have to stop mid-tune a couple of times throughout the night to tune-up. It is the curse of Gibson guitars -- regardless if they are from the Custom Shop or not.

    One thing about James Tyler guitars -- man they hold it together all night long. Out of habit I check the tuning between sets -- and both the Burning Water (strat) and the TylerBastar (tele) - are always in tune.


    Really dig this guitar Gibson CS 336

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    Re: Humbucker Recommendations for my 2004 Gibson Les Paul Historic 58 RI Cloud 9

    Might also look into a "roller" bridge. Boy, can I spend your money, lol.

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    Re: Humbucker Recommendations for my 2004 Gibson Les Paul Historic 58 RI Cloud 9

    Whatever you did to my 2004 58 Historic Cloud 9 -- it worked!

    tuning is really stable ... Finally got a chance to play the guitar for about 40 minutes tonight and the tuning held very nicely. Best it has ever been!

    Looking forward to getting back the CS 336.



    FYI -- If any forums members are near Vernon NJ area in Sussex County and need any work done on their guitars ... highly recommend "The Fret Shop".

    Jim has worked on my guitars for many many years... and his work has always been top notch!



    Quote Originally Posted by Fret Shop View Post
    Might also look into a "roller" bridge. Boy, can I spend your money, lol.
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    Re: Humbucker Recommendations for my 2004 Gibson Les Paul Historic 58 RI Cloud 9

    Quote Originally Posted by LVC View Post
    Whatever you did to my 2004 58 Historic Cloud 9 -- it worked!

    tuning is really stable ... Finally got a chance to play the guitar for about 40 minutes tonight and the tuning held very nicely. Best it has ever been!

    Looking forward to getting back the CS 336.



    FYI -- If any forums members are near Vernon NJ area in Sussex County and need any work done on their guitars ... highly recommend "The Fret Shop".

    Jim has worked on my guitars for many many years... and his work has always been top notch!
    Thanks Laz,
    Started the 336 tonight, hope to finish up tomorrow evening.


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