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    Tubes, tubes tubes -- what are your favorite amp tubes - both NOS and current production?

    I just retubed my victoria Double Deluxe

    It originally had a set of TAD 6V6, a TAD 12ax7, A nos 12AY7 (THAT WAS MICROPHONIC) and a NOS Philco 5v4GA that was also having some issues

    1. First try was with a set of 6v6 NOS that I got locally -- they sucked (too hot and brittle)

    Second up -- I got a set of

    1. TAD Select 6v6
    2. TAD Cryoset 5AR4
    3. EH 12AY7 Low noise tested
    4. EH 12AX7


    The EH 12AX7 was to hot (added too much gain)


    After messing around for a bit I settled on

    1. tad 6v6
    2. TAD Cryo 5AR4
    3. EH 12AY7 - low noise
    4. TAD 12AX7

    Sounds great!!!! Lots of clean headroom -- no farty lows.


    I have to tell you -- I am very impressed with the EH12AY7. When I got it, I paid the extra $4 to get one that was tested for low noise.

    The tweed is quiet as a mouse with that tube -- much quieter than it was with the NOS 12ay7.

    Overall the amp sounds great -- great clarity and warmth.


    Next up is the 67 BandMaster. Will probably put some Philips NOS 6L6's in it.
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    Re: Tubes, tubes tubes -- what are your favorite amp tubes - both NOS and current production?

    Get some NOS 7581's

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    I started collecting tubes 41 years ago ... last time I added it up over $5000. Every tube is unique like a snowflake. Each one is unique. Different amps work better with certain tubes. A tube could sound great in one amp and not in a other. KT66 are some of my favorites.
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    Quote Originally Posted by locomotivebreath View Post
    In the interest of public service narrow down your tube purchases with further research. Its okay to save some money....
    The bulk of the collection I picked up before 1990 ..... It is not like I spend a lot on tubes/ the collection grows very slow & I own amps that can use them all. Some kids collected baseball cards or stamps.... I collected tubes.
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    Re: Tubes, tubes tubes -- what are your favorite amp tubes - both NOS and current production?

    good points

    Can you recommend some tubes to me?


    I have a Fender Bassman that was modified by smitty of Bluetron fame

    NAD -- Bassman with Mods by Smitty from Bluetron


    It came with el34s (which sound great) but I want to use the amp with 6L6's.


    So this morning I went to my local tech and he had a couple of Ruby's and we put those in.

    to say the least I got home and I am not happy with the ruby 6l6 tubes.

    1. a little noisy vs the JJEL34 it had in it
    2. Very Boomy -- the bass notes on the guitar jump out at you.


    I don't want to spend much money -- but I need a matched set ( because of baseman bias) of 6l6 tubes that:

    1. Have great clarity on the top end
    2. can handle a larger tranny (the Smitty mod includes a 100 watt Twin transformer)
    3. Bottom does not mush out with overdrive pedals
    4. Fairly even EQ throughout (no boom on the bottom - no spike on the top


    I want sparkling cleans with the amp -- I get my overdriven tones from pedals.

    any suggestions?



    Quote Originally Posted by locomotivebreath View Post
    My reply was for the general public. Not tube wackos like us!

    I too have amassed a ridiculous amount of tubes. For a period of time the gold rush days were buying or getting for free the pulls from the music store "repair guy". A lot of those guys would retube a amp as a matter of routine whether it needed it or not. 90% of preamp tubes had mucho life on them!!!

    I was just suggesting as I'm sure you would agree dont just by a tube just because someone said its good because it aint always so. Circuit/speakers/ears ect...
    Cheers!
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    Re: Tubes, tubes tubes -- what are your favorite amp tubes - both NOS and current production?

    Agree about the RCA .... maybe GE / mix in the preamp also. 5751 often tend to darken up the sound so A/B with a AT or AU like mentioned to see what fits your taste.
    As most people know the first preamp tube is going to have the biggest effect on the sound/feel/tonal balance/gain / etc... this tube try several it makes a huge difference in the entire sound.
    That bouncy boomy bottom is very normal in these amps and you might want to turn the bass knob way down .... try the 0/3 range. Then just balance the treble with the rest of the rig. I am sure you could get away with a lot more with the EL34 since the bottom octave is pretty much rolled off. This advise might be useless because we have no idea how much he changed in there. Looks very cool. Very much like the Bassman/ personal favorite...

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    Re: Tubes, tubes tubes -- what are your favorite amp tubes - both NOS and current production?

    Interesting observation on the el34s
    No boom with with them.

    I just like the feel of 6l6 better -- they seem less "punchy" to me. I don't like it when an amp snaps back to quickly -- I know a lot folks like that - but I don't. I like the response to be a little softer.

    also I don't want a darker tone --- I play mostly R&B/Soul -- while not bright (brittle/ice pick)-- the tone needs to be clear and well balanced since a lot of chord work uses fragmented chords and alternative voicings -- if you don't have a balanced clarity in the tone -- you can get lost in the mix very quickly. the guitar needs to sit in the mix and play well with the keyboards and horns.


    Quote Originally Posted by stephen sawall View Post
    Agree about the RCA .... maybe GE / mix in the preamp also. 5751 often tend to darken up the sound so A/B with a AT or AU like mentioned to see what fits your taste.
    As most people know the first preamp tube is going to have the biggest effect on the sound/feel/tonal balance/gain / etc... this tube try several it makes a huge difference in the entire sound.
    That bouncy boomy bottom is very normal in these amps and you might want to turn the bass knob way down .... try the 0/3 range. Then just balance the treble with the rest of the rig. I am sure you could get away with a lot more with the EL34 since the bottom octave is pretty much rolled off. This advise might be useless because we have no idea how much he changed in there. Looks very cool. Very much like the Bassman/ personal favorite...

    "tube wackos" ~
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    With the modification that was done to the amp it might have been voiced more to fit EL34's .... this might make the bass very strong with a 6L6. Like everything ... Trust your ears & do not worry about it.
    If you put in KT66 it would be even more boom....and a huge sound. You might not be able to roll off what you want with the bass knob but I see nothing wrong with turning pots all the way up or off. Sometimes it is what works best. You might like 5881's .... but it sounds like more GE 6L6 to me. That is what I would use

    I like both ... fast & slow depending on what I am doing at the time. I have separate amps that kind of cover the range. For singing leads or cleans slower can be be better. Fast complex chord progression faster works better for me. In general I prefer faster response.
    I play a fair amount of Funk and R&B and know where you are coming from working often with keyboard and a horn section. ... Love the brass...

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    Re: Tubes, tubes tubes -- what are your favorite amp tubes - both NOS and current production?

    gut shots of the bluetron mod 68 Bassman



































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    Re: Tubes, tubes tubes -- what are your favorite amp tubes - both NOS and current production?

    I got a set of matched tung-sol el34s

    Tung-Sol EL34B




    Re-biased her up with my new Amp-Head Bias meter --- and this amp sounds glorious


    No further tweaks needed


    Quote Originally Posted by stephen sawall View Post
    With the modification that was done to the amp it might have been voiced more to fit EL34's .... this might make the bass very strong with a 6L6. Like everything ... Trust your ears & do not worry about it.
    If you put in KT66 it would be even more boom....and a huge sound. You might not be able to roll off what you want with the bass knob but I see nothing wrong with turning pots all the way up or off. Sometimes it is what works best. You might like 5881's .... but it sounds like more GE 6L6 to me. That is what I would use

    I like both ... fast & slow depending on what I am doing at the time. I have separate amps that kind of cover the range. For singing leads or cleans slower can be be better. Fast complex chord progression faster works better for me. In general I prefer faster response.
    I play a fair amount of Funk and R&B and know where you are coming from working often with keyboard and a horn section. ... Love the brass...

    .
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